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Why I No Longer Link To The Likes Of ProBlogger And John Chow

Why is it that as bloggers we love to share a bit of link luv with other bloggers? Sure we do it because we found a particular post to be interesting, and therefore worth sharing with our readers, but I put it to you that another reason is that, deep down, we hope to get some recognition from that blogger. A simple visit to our blog with a quick thank you isn’t too much to ask now is it?

Yeah, I can hear some of you mumbling in the background that the likes of Darren Rowse and John Chow are way too busy for such common courtesies and I understand that. Seriously, I do. Let’s look at it another way.

Have you ever been in a room with people who are engrossed in a conversation? You’ve got something that you think will be of interest to the rest of the group but they just don’t seem to be listening? Well that’s how I feel when I visit most problogger’s blogs, whether I leave a comment or whether I link to one of their posts. I may as well be in that damn room talking to myself for all the good it does.

Well no more! From this day forth I won’t be linking to any of their posts. OK, I’m hearing that nagging voice somewhere saying, ‘But what if I find something interesting that I want to share with my readers?’ Well, that’s not going to be a problem either, because I’ve unsubscribed from their blogs. No more notifications, especially those annoying ones from Chow every time he visits a restaurant. Honestly I don’t really care what he’s shoving down his throat.

As far as I’m concerned it’s no great loss, because there are so many other great bloggers out there. They may not be as well known, but that does not make what they have to say any less important or interesting. Sure Darren and Chow have a huge readership, and I’m not arguing that they are not good at what they do. What I’m saying is that they are not the only good bloggers out there.


There are so many other great bloggers who are not as well known, and who have a greater need of my link luv than any of the probloggers. These are just a few of those bloggers who are great at what they do but do not get the recognition of the so called ‘big boys’.

  • Extreme John: Now this bloke is bloody entertaining. He’s not scared of telling people how it is and won’t stand for any lip. He also understands, unlike those problogger snobs, what link luv is all about, as can be seen from his 12 Bloggers that Share Link Juice post.
  • iBlogZone: This is a blog that is full of great information, and DiTesco is another blogger who is not afraid to share a bit of link luv. His post Google AdSense Webinar – Free Online Seminars is just one of  many posts that are aimed at helping others to improve the earning potential of their blogs.
  • Kikolani: Kristi the owner of this blog does weekly updates where she shares with others all the interesting posts that she has come across during the week. She calls them her Fetching Friday posts, but other posts such as 5 Bad Reasons To Quit Blogging show that she has a wealth of information to share.
  • Social @ Blogging Tracker: Ching Ya, like the majority of women :innocent1_tb: , loves to mix it up in the social networks and her posts, like 6 Twitter Lists Applications to Expand Your Network helps others to share in her expertise.
  • I’m Just Sharing: Mitch is a blogger who is all about sharing and his posts are many and varied. My only complaint is that I don’t have the time to keep up with all his posts. One you might find interesting is How He Writes Blog Posts.

Of course there are many more, too many for me to name here. What I am trying to show is that because there are so many really talented bloggers out there, men and women who cover almost every subject imaginable, I don’t need the likes of those so called Probloggers. I have a pool of bloggers that I enjoy reading, ones that I know recognize my presence when I visit their blog and are not afraid to pop in on occasion to say hello by leaving a comment.

As far as I’m concerned blogging is more than sharing your ideas or ideals in a blog post. It’s also about conversing with them and dropping in on them once in awhile to see how they are going.

It seems that this post has created an interesting discussion over on David Risley’s blog titled, When Commenting Begins To Hurt Your Blogging Success. Perhaps you would like to add your thoughts to the discussion.

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  1. Great list of bloggers! I will include them in my round through the blogosphere today ;-) I still hang around at John Chow’s “water cooler”, but mainly because I like the company there and sometimes you learn even a bit of interesting information. I barely ever read a full blog post from Darren at problogger, they are too long and too text heavy in my opinion, but that is just me ;-)
    Actually I made quite recently the decision in linking in each blog post to one other blogger that has something valuable to say to the theme of my blog post or that is just plain entertaining. If I would be more organized, I would even schedule a regular feature on my blog like “the ten most useful blog posts from others this week” or something similar. SY*makes note to herself to get finally organized*

    1. Sy, one day I reckon I will become more organized as far as blogging is concerned, but I don’t see it happening anytime soon.

      1. That makes two of us, but at least we have the good intentions ;-) SY

  2. This issue not only appears in blogging, but also in Twitter or any other social media site. Great guys don’t have time for other smaller guys.
    .-= Phaoloo´s last blog ..10+ Icon And Smiley Sets For This Christmas =-.

    1. You’re right Phaoloo. I actually saw a post or ad by JC where he says something like ‘if you follow me, i’ll follow you’. Well, I have followed him around 5 months ago and still didn’t see him following me. In the ‘promises’ area, he’s not even good at fulfilling it, even though he has those yes men and automated applications that do his bidding.

      Wait, I’m not being bitter at JC. I still visit his blog sometimes to see if there’s something new I can learn from his army of writers. :)
      .-= James Moralde´s last blog ..Wave board 101: Learning the waveboard =-.

  3. This is actually one of the biggest reason to why big bloggers continue to grow. New bloggers wish to get noticed and therefore they link to probloggers in hope to get mentioned by them.

    Truth to be told, when was the last time you saw Darren publish a post with new methods? The last few years it has all been the same. Create great content, make comments, help your visitors and then monetize them.
    .-= Stefan´s last blog ..Remove Hyperlinks in Comments =-.

    1. My point exactly Stefan, and I would much prefer promoting the David’s of the blogging world rather than the Goliaths.

  4. Sire, to tell you honestly, I care not about links and this PR link juice thing even when I started blogging. I don’t want to be a hypocrite and pretend that I wasn’t glad with a PR4 but the moment I’ve found out that my blog grew to that level, okay I paused to think it was an added advantage to get money outline and capitalize it as much as I can yet it’s becoming much more of a burden and a cause to get greedy with links which is after all virtual goods that the soul couldn’t consume.
    I’m a bit fedup with this link juice thing and it makes me want to vomit everytime I hear this topic. I don’t know maybe it was just me.
    If this PR thing would keep me from becoming the better person and/or blogger that I can be, I’d give it away.
    I don’t want stress and neither do I need to embrace something that would stress me out. I’ll link to anyone and to where it is due not expecting something in return.
    .-= Mathdelane @Software Critics´s last blog ..A Christmas Carol Free Audio Download for All Ages =-.

    1. Mathdelane, I understand your view, and I think it’s fine that you feel that way. I reckon it’s great that you can link to another post and not mind if they don’t link back. I’m actually fine with that as well, but I still think that a thank you for the link luv every now and again wouldn’t go astray.

      1. I once thought about it for the sake of fairness but reality bites. What’s the rel=”nofollow” anyway if they don’t link back? What’s more pathetic is asking or maybe begging for a link back when the other party just don’t want to give something in return? I’d rather give and if I receive, then I’ll give thanks that’s for sure.
        .-= Mathdelane @Software Critics´s last blog ..When Is Image Hosting On Your Server Not Necessary? =-.

        1. It’s not all about the link, it’s also about the comment. You take the time to write a comment, and then I as a token of appreciation will reciprocate with a comment on your blog.

          You write a post with a link to one of my posts and the I will again show my appreciation by visiting your blog and thanking you for being so generous.

          I don’t think I suggested that they returned the favor by writing a post linking to me. :bigsurprise_ee: Heaven forbid. Even I do not link to every person who has linked to me. This should only be done when you come across a really good post and not just for the sake of it.

          1. I maybe so much concentrated on links with the way my comments progresses but speaking of comments, like how many times did I get to leave a comment on blogs that I hardly couldn’t get even a glimpse of that blogger ever visiting my blog? It’s countless. Do follow or not. For do follow blogs, I don’t know if they were thinking that I’m just one link grabber type of passer-by hoping to snatch some attention and Google juice. Sorry if I’m thinking about this idea but it’s just not me. Everytime I get comments on my blog, I comment back to the commentators blog too. If he/she isn’t a blogger, I reply to the comments thread always assuming that the person subscribed from the comments. Maybe that’s how the web works. I have left with nothing else to say. I can’t please anybody but at least I’ve tried. They may or may not reciprocate, that’s fine as well. :)
            .-= Mathdelane @Software Critics´s last blog ..A Christmas Carol Free Audio Download for All Ages =-.

            1. All you can do is try, one can’t ask for anymore than that.


  5. Twitter:
    First, I love the new holiday theme. Very festive; almost makes me think of Christmas, while wondering what the heck you know about snow. lol

    Second, you’re making a very good point here, one that I actually made today at one of my health care meetings. We always have these “experts” coming in to talk to us about stuff that, for the most part, someone in the room has an answer for, if only they knew who to ask.

    Third, I do still follow both Problogger and John Chow. You’re right, John doesn’t give up a lot of good information anymore, though he has a day here and there, while Problogger isn’t even writing most of his posts anymore, though there’s still a whole lot of good stuff.

    But I have Problogger’s blog on my blogroll, and you’re right, he really doesn’t need the push there. I’ve mentioned him in some of my posts; I figure that’s enough. So, I’m going to follow your lead on that one.
    .-= Mitch´s last blog ..Deciding When To Go To A Paid Model =-.

    1. I’ve actually seen snow Mitch, on my visit to New Zealand. We also get snow in Australia, but not in my neck of the woods.

      I’m not suggesting that people unsubscribe from those guys at all, just my reasons for doing so. I am however trying to make the point that we should be trying harder to support each other, rather than those who don’t need it.


      1. Twitter:
        Oh, I know that, and I’m not unsubscribing from them in my reader. I just figured that they don’t need the extra love coming from me when so many other people are ready to give it, and comment for whatever reason they feel is necessary, since they get nothing from it.

        And really, it snows in New Zealand? Where? I thought both of y’all pretty much had the same weather.

        By the way, I need you to do a test on my IJS blog to see if you get a return email; I think I found the bad one, but I need to make sure.
        .-= Mitch´s last blog ..How Do You Feel About Blog Podcasting? =-.

        1. Sure does, on the South Island. I stayed at Invercargill, visiting an old school friend and it snowed the whole time.

          I left a comment on your blog, will see if it works.

        2. Can I jump in on the snow discussion? I haven’t had chance to read all the posts, so sorry if I’m doubling up.

          I’m from Australia. Go skiing in the Winter whenever I can. Snowfields only an hours drive away from me. Downhill & cross country. New Zealand has some great snowfields. I’m still amazed that people don’t know that it snows here and I thought everyone knew it snowed in NZ. lol You live and learn!

          Anyway, on the topic at hand I hadn’t looked at things from your perspective before, but I’m with the ProBlogger community and although I don’t visit much, as a newbie, I enjoy being involved and enjoy Darrens tweets a lot. He’s got a great sense of humour.

          Each to his own.

          Christine :-)
          .-= Christine Holroyd´s last blog ..Wordless Wednesday : Not Happy Mum =-.

          1. Hey Christine, it’s so nice to have another Aussie on board.

            Of course Darren has a great sense of humor, it’s part and parcel of being an Aussie, we’re naturally good at everything we do. :wink_ee:

            As for siding with the Problogger community, that’s cool too. I don’t mind at all, again part of being an Aussie. I think it fits in with the ‘she’ll be right Jack’ mantra.

            1. I might have to burst your bubble, but I’m Welsh. lol Well, English parents who moved to Wales and I was born there, then at 4 yrs of age moved to Oz. So, one of those World Citizens. I did become naturalised only about 10 yrs ago.

              As a new blogger, just the middle of this yr and feeling overwhelmed, I can totally relate to Darren and I’ve often wondered how in the hell does anyone of that calibre, keep up.

              I’m struggling at this level, so I don’t know how I’ll cope further down the track. and I admire some, not all of the pro’s.

              I don’t get pulled in easily, though and I found Darren to be a warm, fuzzy kinda guy. I haven’t checked in with David Risley yet, but liked his input here. I also enjoy being in touch with others who are virtually unknown. It’s a fascinating world.

              Thanks for your post here, Sire. It’s truly informative.

              Keep up the good work and you can still call me an Aussie. lol
              .-= Christine Holroyd´s last blog ..Wordless Wednesday : Not Happy Mum =-.

            2. As far as I’m concerned you are an Aussie. I have Italian parents, but I was born here, and when I was growing up I was a Wog. Strangely enough, on one of my other blogs, someone left a whole heap of hateful comments about wogs which got worse ones he found out I was one.

              What a sad world we live in.


          2. Twitter:
            Hi Christine,

            I talk to a few people from Australia, and at the coldest temps it seems it rarely gets below what we’d call 60F, or 15C for you. So, I didn’t know, living in New York, that there were places in your area where it could get cold enough to have snow, let alone skiing. We have plenty of each where I live. I’m probably not alone on this as an American; at least I have an idea of where New Zealand is, though. :-D
            .-= Mitch´s last blog ..How Much Do I Write? =-.

            1. Hi Mitch.

              I know the cold you are talking about. I was in NY years ago and the first snow for the season started just as I was leaving :-( I love the white stuff and obviously, it drops below 15C here. Into the minuses in the mountains.

              I know the NZers are left out of things, so it’s great that you know where it is. lol
              .-= Christine Holroyd´s last blog ..Wordless Wednesday : Not Happy Mum =-.

            2. Hi Mitch
              I’m from Perth Western Australia and we definitely don’t get snow. Beautiful sunny weather most of the time! Had to wait till I went to Scotland to see my first snowfall. Soon got over it when we had to walk to work (was living in nurses quarters at the time) lol.
              So good to have found a fellow Aussie’s site Sire and will be checking in here regularly now.
              Love what you say about supporting lesser known bloggers. Helps us newbies keep going as I did wonder how we would get to meet up with some established bloggers and this has been helpful for me. Thanks
              Patricia Perth Australia

            3. Yay :clap_tb: a fellow Aussie, and from Perth too. I’ve always wanted to visit Perth, and I’ll get to it one day.

              Great to have you pop in once in awhile Patricia. Had a quick look at your blog. Didn’t know there were so many types of Lavender plants. Will drop in one day soon to leave comment.
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  6. I never followed John Chow. Honestly, I thought he was a joke, but then realized that was just some bitter people and he really is successful. :doh_tb: I do subscribe to Darren Rowse, but agree he is long-winded, boring, and most of the writing isn’t even his anymore. Now I just come here to be told how disorganized I am and how if I just did a little tweaking I could pull in something. By the way ~ I added AdSense to my main blog yesterday and earned 89¢. Not a lot, but funny since I only earned 14¢ for the entire month of November on my other blogs. :cheese1_ee:

    1. Hey Anne, have I been talking in my sleep or something? I don’t remember calling you disorganized :tongue_wink_ee:

      As for your Adsense :clap_tb: 89 cents for your first day is really good. Don’t expect to get that everyday though, and if you do you’re going to have to show me how you did it.

  7. I follow big bloggers just to know what they are up to. I don’t link to their sites often as I know they are way to busy to vist my blog.

    Some bloggers created a name some time ago and they are just riding the gravy train now. Nothing new or interesting anymore.

    The bloggers you mentioned are all great.
    .-= George Serradinho´s last blog ..eBook – Your Body Is Your Temple =-.

    1. Cool, but personally, I’m no longer interested in what they’re up to.

      Like I said to Mitch, this post is not intended to stop people from reading them, I’m just stating my reasons for not following them anymore.

  8. Its sound a bit controversial. We’ll know that problogger and john chow are great blogger. But you are right, its not just them. There are a lot of great blogger out there. Some of them already mentioned by you. You did great jobs give us those bloggers site.
    .-= kerja kosong´s last blog ..Darul Ehsan Medical Centre – DEMC Jobs Vacancies Shah Alam =-.

    1. The thing to keep in mind is that Darren and John don’t really need our help anymore whereas others do, and I would much prefer giving them a leg up in the blogging world.

  9. I have early on realize what you have stated here, so I did not make an effort to be recognized by those top bloggers you have mentioned. I did go for others who are generous enough to extend recognition. There are lots of them. :-)

    1. Thanks Walter for sharing your views.

  10. From my early days I have no interest on problogger site. They never care you, and usually what they write, are actually just spending time with readers, nothing more than that. In my first 3-4 visit I realize that they are those batsman who make lot of run in past and still in the team because of that though they don’t perform now.
    .-= Arafat Hossain Piyada´s last blog ..Get free song or music video, app, TV episode or film from iTunes in this Christmas =-.

    1. A very interesting analogy. I’ve never quite thought of problogger as a Donald Bradman who’s had his day. :laugh_tb:

      Seriously though, I reckon Darren has a lot of good blogging left in him.

  11. Very nice list, I subscribe to them all – Ching Ya just now so thanks for that :) .

    I must agree wholeheartedly and don’t remember if I’ve ever linked to any of them.

    Quite frankly I am convinced that a high percentage of their popularity has very little to do with “talent” as it were, but for the fact that they were basically…first in their fields.
    .-= Dennis Edell´s last blog ..Simons Running A Contest – Over $800 In Prizes! =-.

    1. First in their fields! :clap_tb: Thank you Dennis. I’ve said the very same thing on more than one occasion. That and the fact that we have a lot more competition than they ever did when they started.

      1. I could go on and say that many “guru” articles nowadays are simply swiped from the up&commers anyway; but I won’t, that would just be mean…
        .-= Dennis Edell´s last blog ..Blogging Halted Here – Don’t Despair, This Is A Good Thing! =-.

    1. That’s the idea gautam hans. It’s a lot more satisfying when you deal with people who are willing to interact with you. A whole lot better than talking to deaf ears.

      Thanks for the comment.

  12. Have found this is also the case in a number of niches, where star bloggers seem to have forgotten their roots.
    As for ProBlogger / Damian, he has attained Scobleizer status as far as I am concerned … tune out to tune up
    .-= Paul H´s last blog ..SmartHeat: Another Great Growth Opportunity from China =-.

    1. One should never forget their roots, and I know it must be hard when they get so many comments, but a lot of their comments are pretty poor, and you’d think, even if they’re not going to visit your blog they would acknowledge a comment left on theirs once in awhile.


  13. Twitter:
    Hey Sire,

    While I agree that it’s kind of funny (in a sad sort of way), to see someone start a brand new blog, and have a blogroll in the sidebar that links to Darren, John Chow, Yaro, and ShoeMoney … in the vain hopes of getting “recognized” …

    I’m not so hot though on the idea of “discriminating” against a blogger simply because they are considered “successful”. I’d like to think that we’re capable of judging each article we read on it’s merits. Obviously, I want to do the most I can to help promote online friends who I actually know and interact with. However, if I read a good article on CopyBlogger or DoshDosh for instance, I don’t see any reason why I shouldn’t be just as generous with the link love.

    I don’t “expect” them to ever link back to me. And truth be told, I really shouldn’t “expect” any sort of automatic pay back from my lesser known blogging buddies either.

    To truly get the “pay it forward” effect, you almost just have to trust in the idea that what goes around comes around … eventually … even if it’s hard to see how at the time.
    .-= Todd@Todds Tips´s last blog ..Todd’s Weekly Reader 12-04-09 =-.

    1. Todd, I reckon the post must sound a little like sour grapes, but it’s not that at all. I have nothing against the big boys, I just think I’d rather socialize with people who appreciate what I have to say and won’t begrudge me a moment of their time.

      I also don’t believe that I will be missing out on anything by no longer reading their blogs as there are so many interesting bloggers out there.

      Again, this post wasn’t written to start a ‘Let’s Boycott The ProBlogger’ movement as I know the majority of people wouldn’t agree with me. Even so, I felt I should make my feelings know so that I could gauge other people’s reactions.

      As always, I really appreciate your comments and hope you will continue to come back to voice your well thought out opinions.

  14. Hi I too am not a fan of the so called ‘celeb gurus’. The crap they published in 2009 is of really little to no value. And now Problogger is repackaging the one good series of post he had and selling it. And don’t even get me started on charging folks to have access to his forum. Palease!

    With all the free information available from friendly community minded bloggers; such as your self and the folks on your list, why would someone pay to be a Mastermind?
    .-= Ms. Freeman´s last blog ..Google Wave Invitations Giveaway Drawing =-.

    1. Well, the guy has worked pretty hard to get to where he is and there is a perception that he really knows what he is talking about.

      As for charging for the forum membership, I think I dis say somewhere that I wouldn’t pay to join a forum when there are so many good free ones around. The thing is there are a lot of people willing to pay for membership, and if they are happy to do so, why shouldn’t he place a small charge. When they get tired of it they will just cancel their membership.

      I do believe this is your first time here, and I would like to welcome you and to thank you for your comment.

  15. Like most new bloggers, one of the first blogs I subscribed to and favored on sites like BlogCatalog was ProBlogger. We learn a lot early-on from the pros or popular bloggers. So I’m giving them their dues. But I agree that it’s not worth it to play the comments game or hope you’ll even get a reply much less a linkback!

    I have to admit I was very surprised when Chris Brogan joined the conversation on a guest post where I mentioned he got 136 comments on his 153 word post!

    As you said, we should make room for bloggers who are just as knowledgeable, but have time to give and take.
    .-= SBA´s last blog ..50+ Awesome Twitter Tools And A Free Report =-.

    1. I know with John Chow, that he did actually reply to a couple of comments I left, but only when defending something I disagreed with. I don’t recall ever getting a reply from Darren.

      Still, at least I don’t have to worry about following them anymore, which frees up time to look for new talent.

  16. Sire, Since long time ago, I am following people who are blogging with sense, creativity, and of course you feel as being close as your real friends in the world like those dear bloggers who you mentioned in this mini-list. Maybe they are not in my blogging niche but I am interested in reading their blogs.
    .-= Hicham´s last blog ..Flying with Black Wings =-.

    1. That’s it exactly. You become more of a community when there is some sort of interaction, and to me that is blogging is all about.

  17. John who? I know of a guy who goes by the name of John, but with the “Extreme” before that and I could not agree with you more when you say that it is very annoying to be in a dark room talking all by yourself. I have made this move myself a long time ago and figured that pointing to these so called probloggers is nothing but a waste of my time and link luv. BTW, thanks for the luv… you have made my day…woooot
    .-= DiTesco´s last blog ..Using Google’s AdSense Channels – Video Tutorials #1 =-.

    1. I must admit that Extreme John is a lot more entertaining and comes up with some brilliant posts as well.

      Apart from the great posts I must admit that some of the sheilas that work for him who are kind enough to let him post pictures of them on his blog make it well worth a visit. :devil_tb:

      1. I won’t argue on facts about the Sheilas..haha. That in itself is worth at least 10 page views, if not more. Have a great sunday
        .-= DiTesco´s last blog ..Using Google’s AdSense Channels – Video Tutorials #2 =-.

  18. Loving the holiday look bro :)

    I am right there with you, to be honest with you I think the fact that so many bloggers worship the John Chow’s and crap is a joke. They are human just like everyone else, they just put the time in, hardly makes them better than anyone else.

    I can safely say I have never linked to any of their posts, more importantly I don’t even read their blogs in order to want to link to any of their posts. I visited John Chow once, never saw a reason to go back.
    .-= Extreme John´s last blog ..Sunday Smash =-.

    1. Just goes to show you’re that much smarter that I John, as it took me this long to come to the same conclusion. Oh well, better late than never.

  19. Great points Sire. You can pretty much learn all you are going to learn from certain (not all) big Blogger sites just by reading a months worth of posts. After that you’ll start to see the rinse-and-repeat syndrome kick in.

    I get much more out of reading blog posts by You, Extreme John, Mitch, to name just a few of the great talent out there.

    Regards,

    Karl
    .-= Karl Foxley@SEO Blog´s last blog ..Create A New Audio Product Every Single Month In Just A Few Clicks! =-.

    1. Thanks Karl, and it’s because I appreciate guys like you who leave a comment that I make sure that I take the time to reply. It’s all about common courtesy.

  20. Darren is also too busy for an interview. There is a couple of links on his site too me. That’s only because I took part in his 31 Days to Building a Better Blog. lol I’ve linked to him a few times. He’s never returned the visit. I guess I don’t fall in his circle.

    Ps: I never liked John.
    .-= Rose´s last blog ..How to add a falling snow effect to your Blogger Blog =-.

    1. Don’t feel bad Rose, I reckon most of us don’t fall into their circle. No drama, our circle of bloggers is a heck of a lot friendlier.

  21. Hi Sire!
    I have to agree with you. That list of bloggers that you linked to is a very cool one indeed. They provide excellent information and more importantly are nice people.
    I like your way of putting things :-D .
    Always love coming over and reading your blog- keep up the great work.
    Eren
    .-= Eren Mckay´s last blog ..Carrot soup recipe with yummy sweet potato =-.

    1. Thanks Eren, I try my best. You can’t make everyone happy with every post, but as long as some appreciate it, then it’s all worth while.

  22. First of all this is a great post because you raise an interesting point. Sharing a link Luv is part of the online social networking. However you certainly cannot see the lack of reciprocity as sign of “lack of luv” from the other party. Just imagine how many blogs do the same thing and the time it would take for Darren or John Chow to visit other people’s blogs just because they left a comment or more. I personally would think about my blog readers first instead of trying to get the attention of those proeminent bloggers.

    Oh, and just so you know I de-linked your url because you didn’t follow the rules, which is a shame because you did leave a good comment. I’m just letting you know for next time.

    1. The point is that they don’t even acknowledge a comment left on their own blog. There is many a time when I’ve taken time out of a busy day to read one of their posts and left a well thought out comment. I subscribe to the post to await a reply and it never comes. I don’t need that.

      1. The comments left by your blog visitors is a testimonial to your blog success and to the point you are making. We all need some ackowledgement at some point or another. I agree with you, they should make an effort just as a matter of courtesy. But you know what, in the end it’s your blog readers that matter the most in terms of building your online community. Happy blogging!

        1. Blog readers are definitely very important to the survival of a good blog, otherwise we are just blogging in a void.

  23. Good morning, Sire.

    I like your holiday theme!

    Years ago, I read everything that Darren wrote and I learned a great deal from him. I’ve also visited other very popular blogs and learned from them, too.

    Over time, however, my needs and my viewpoint changed. At some point, I believe, we learn all we can from someone and then it’s time to move on.

    Now, if Darren, for instance, were as good as you are about participating in the conversations that could take place in his comments, I might tend to visit his site more often.

    I still get his feed and skim it, but it’s not as interesting as it used to be. I don’t know if that’s because he’s changed or if I have.

    I feel that way about other bloggers, both famous and not-so-famous. I’ve learned all I can from some and stopped visiting their blogs. Others, I just never think to go back to see what they have to say.

    There are a few people who write about topics in which I’m interested and who also want to carry on a conversation with the people who visit and comment on what they write. Those are the blogs I love to read, even when I get into a real time squeeze.

    There are about a half-dozen of those people that I try to make the time to visit and read what they have to say, even if I don’t always leave a comment.

    In fact, if it were not for the friendships I’ve made and the conversations I enjoy, I would probably stop blogging and go back to putting my time and effort into building my static sites.

    All the best,

    JD

    1. John, I think that a lot of Darren’s posts are now written by guest bloggers. Also, there is only so much that you can regurgitate as far as blogging tips and tricks go and then it becomes rather boring.

      I try to give my posts a little entertainment factor. Sometimes there’s a lesson to be learned from it and sometimes I just write it for pure enjoyment, hoping that some of it rubs off onto my readers.

      The main point of my blogging is to interact with people, probably because I’m not very good at it in the real world. This is one of the reasons why I also comment on other blogs. I just wish there was more of me to spread around so that I could involve myself with even more commentating.

  24. This was the first post I read in your blog and is great! I will read some more posts in your blog for sure!

    BTW I have commented many times on ProBlogger site but till I haven’t got a reply from them. I think they receive too many comments and would be finding it hard to answer every comment. Though I think they should at least answer the questions asked by us in the comments! The ProBlogger site is depended on “Guest Posts” mainly and not many written by Darren the main admin of the blog!

    I have linked to them some times from my blog but I don’t think I will do that again!

    1. Welcomw Saksham, and I hope this is the first of many visits. I’m so glad that you liked this post, and while I agree that Darren had many comments, I would think that he also has more time, seeing how Blogging is his profession. I on the other hand have a full time job and I still make an effort to reply and reciprocate every comment.

      1. I too reply to each and every comment that a visitor leaves in my blog. Its like giving respect to the commenter. But unfortunately these great bloggers don’t have any respect for their commenters. So sad, isn’t it?
        .-= Saksham @ Blogging Junction´s last blog ..Back Up Your Blog Regularly. =-.

        1. Not to worry Saksham, it’s their loss and our gain. You could say that we are building a newer, better breed of bloggers if we all remember to respect and value our commentators.

          1. Yeah, you’re right! We together will make this blogging world better and the best.
            .-= Saksham @ Blogging Junction´s last blog ..Back Up Your Blog Regularly. =-.

  25. Just a word from the “other side”. ;-)

    In order to make the amount of money “probloggers” do, your MO has to change. Now, I see from your post a few days ago that you made $95 last month. That’s great. However, when you treat this as a business, income is a lot better, but your MO has to change, too.

    John, Darren, myself, Yaro… we didn’t come to make the money we do with our blogs by commenting all day.

    Now, just speaking for myself, I would love to be in the comments alot. I try to get in there and interact as often as I can. But, this blogging thing, for me, is a full-time business, with emphasis on business – meaning I am constantly working to provide value. Plus, my little girl likes her dad. :-)

    So, there is a flip side. We’re talking different levels of operation here. And I guess you have to decide… is this a business, or just a conversation for fun?

    Don’t mean to sound flippant, but just calling it like I see it.

    Anyway, I may respond via a post on my blog in the next few days. We’ll see. It is an interesting post for a variety of reasons. :-)

    Best of luck.
    .-= David Risley´s last blog ..How To Set Up A Poll With WordPress [And Why] =-.

    1. Once again, thanks for dropping by David, I do appreciate it. I understand your take on it, as I run a business offline, and so I know what it takes to make sure it remains profitable, even when there are changes in the market place and people keep shifting the goal posts.

      Blogging for me is a release from the hassles of the real world. I like playing around with things to see what happens when certain changes are made, and when I can, I relate my experiences in a post.

      As you can see this blog is not all about making money, although I do cover that topic in my limited non problogger capacity. It is more about interacting with others both here and on their blogs.

      That month’s earning probably seems woeful to you, but to me it was gratifying as it wasn’t my main focus for this blog. I’m here to enjoy and possible to entertain and instruct wherever possible.

      Once again, thanks for taking the time to visit my humble blog.

      1. I understand totally. I’m just pointing out that there is a big difference between blogging as a business and blogging for fun. And I hate to see a post and your followers seemingly coming down on people like Darren and John because they take the business approach. It is the very fact they do things the way they do that you guys are even talking about them right now. Sometimes that means not replying to every comment you get.

        BTW, I was hanging out with both Darren and John at BlogWorld. Both are great guys. Both care quite a bit about their communities and they like talking to everybody.

        1. Good discussion here Sir and David, I believe that no one can say that any of those guys is a bad person, we think they are nice and helpful because simply you guys are leaders in the blogging world and online biz, and we have learned a lot from all of you, and we are following and discovering the new trends through your blogs!

          for me.. It’s just that annoying sound that rings in my minds, it’s like “Why they don’t do what they say?!”, but after declaring situation here I feel better with that and started to calm down, maybe it’s just a moment of anger :)

          I hope that this discussion will change all of that, and thanks again David for your declaration!
          .-= Hesham @ FamousBloggers´s last blog ..How to Make Money from ComLuv Social Network – MMO from here and there #2 =-.

        2. Sorry David but I don’t believe I was

          coming down on people like Darren and John because they take the business approach.

          I was merely stating why I was taking this course of action. As for their business approach, it may work differently online but in the real world people actually value their customer base and treat them accordingly.

          As to my commentators, again I don’t think they were having a go at you guys, they were merely expressing their disappointment at being virtually ignored.

          Sure, you guys are running a business, but how many businesses ignore a virtual customer base.

          1. I cannot speak for Darren and John, only myself. I don’t ignore people. I am accessible via a multitude of ways. That said, it would be impossible to reply to everybody.

            Darren is very accessible by email as well as via the Problogger forums. John, I have no idea.
            .-= David Risley´s last blog ..What Tiger Woods Can Teach Bloggers =-.

            1. Well you can scratch the Problogger forums as you have to pay to be a member and it would be suicidal not to reply to those who have paid for the service.

              Also not everyone may feel comfortable, knowing how you guys are so busy, using a contact form etc, and it’s possible their comment may be a way of reaching out. Take Hesham for example who said;

              I also want to add David Risley to the list, I used to read what he writes on his blog, but after adding a few comments and asking him some questions I realized that he don’t read the comments at all and I never got a reply from him! this is sad :(

              Sounds like he felt he was being ignored.

              As to replying to everybody, heck I manage to do that and I only do this in my spare time. If this was my full time job I reckon I’d even have time to give some of my commentators a neck massage. :laugh_tb:

              Seriously though, not every comment requires a reply. There are times when it’s best to sit back as a particular comment may not involve you.


    2. Twitter:
      Hi David,

      I think you’ve missed the point of Sire’s post. These guys are so big that they don’t need any promotion from Sire or any of the rest of it. In a way, they could care less whether any of us comment on their blog or not because they’re now money making machines, and since you’ve put yourself into the mix, so are you.

      To say that the rest of us aren’t serious about our blogging just because it may not be our only source of income is disingenuous. The fact of the matter is that most of us have the same hopes, but we also recognize that we have to be interactive with our community to grow. By the way, that’s one of Problogger’s earliest recommendations as well; seems folks forget their own words once they modify how they do business.

      And Sire’s words, nor any of our comments, are direct slams against either of these guys. I still subscribe to both blogs and read them as well. What I did, however, was remove both from my blogroll, and I’m certainly not commenting on either blog if I’m not in the first 5 comments, which I almost never would be, because at that point I’d be lost in the scrum, and no one would care what I had to say.

      Final comment. Look at how many folks have written here. This isn’t only a Sire issue; most of us feel the same way. Some feel more vehemently about it than others, but that’s just how it goes. At least neither of these guys have turned off comments; that’s the reason I refuse to read Seth Godin’s blog. I may miss something valuable because of my stance, but in my opinion bloggers who don’t read the comments of their visitors, and respond at least here and there to a point, are losing more than the rest of us.
      .-= Mitch´s last blog ..Traffic And Buyers =-.

      1. Yeah, turning off comments is stupid. No idea why somebody would do that.

        To say that the rest of us aren’t serious about our blogging just because it may not be our only source of income is disingenuous.

        I never said that. Have you read my blog? All I do is help people who are not in my situation.

        No, what I did say is that the focus on replying to every comment is not conducive ultimately to growth in income.
        .-= David Risley´s last blog ..What Tiger Woods Can Teach Bloggers =-.


        1. Twitter:
          David,

          That was the implication of your words; at least that’s how I took it. And, if you reread what Sire wrote here, he never said anything in his original post about replying to every comment, which means you did what I did, implied something. He does happen to do it, but he never said he did.

          No, I’ve never read your blog. Hate to say this, but I’d never heard of you until you wrote something here. However, you’ve already pretty much indicated that you’re not going to respond to comments anyway, so I figure I’m probably not one of the community you’re looking to reach.

          I like to think I’m pretty serious about all 3 of my blogs. Yes, on my personal blog, I do comment often on things I believe, but I also do a lot of research and reports and reviews of things. Sire does also. We’re both very serious about our blogs. We haven’t figured out the modus operandi for how to generate enough income to make this a full time living, even though both of us have stated often enough on our blogs that we’d love that. Luckily, we both have other things to fall back on to make money. True, Sire did say he views this as a fun blog, but if you’ve ever read any of the other things he’s written here, you’d see that his “fun” is actually very informative most of the time, and pretty serious stuff (yeah, maybe not when he writes the poems, but everyone has to have a day off here and there), kind of like this post.

          As for me, I’ve written almost 300 posts on one blog this year, 200 on another, and 150 on a third; that seems pretty serious to me, whether it’s business posting or not.

          By the way, I’m not beating up on you here, if it comes across that way. Just the fact that you actually wrote a response here shows you were ready to delve into the crosshairs with no fear, and I appreciate that. I’m really happy you’re making big money; I want to be there someday. I just feel that if there’s no effort at all to respond to commenters, then that’s taking people for granted. I would hope that I never get to that particular point, whether I make a good income or not. Guess I’ll never know unless I get there, though.
          .-= Mitch´s last blog ..How Much Do I Write? =-.

    3. David,

      Interesting post is it not. Been keen to see how you have replied. I must say you have done so with Good tact. Lots of points you bring up that require great thought.

      Anyway, I must Hijack this thread to bring up your little girl. I posted a comment on flickr. Just to note how amazing it is that your little girls looks very much like my little girl. SHe is 3yrs old. Even my wife was surprised. Take a look and let me know what you think.

      Perhaps this is our bond.

      Ok maybe not.
      .-= Robert Bravery´s last blog ..What is the one thing that can improve your blog? =-.

  26. I agree with you 100000%

    I also want to add David Risley to the list, I used to read what he writes on his blog, but after adding a few comments and asking him some questions I realized that he don’t read the comments at all and I never got a reply from him! this is sad :(

    Anyways.. never mind about that Sir, nothing deserve!

    and Ah by the way, we are going to be Famous :) share up!
    .-= Hesham @ FamousBloggers´s last blog ..5 Tips on How to Convert Your Visitors into Loyal Readers =-.

    1. Hesham,

      Nothing personal, dude. I try to answer comments sometimes, but I’ve got about a billion things going on at the same time.

      But, if you needed something, just email me. I always get back to you eventually.
      .-= David Risley´s last blog ..How To Set Up A Poll With WordPress [And Why] =-.

      1. No, I don’t believe David did step into it, as he so eloquently tweeted about 20 minutes ago. He may be a lurker, one never knows….
        .-= Matches Malone´s last blog ..The Making of, Party in the House!!! =-.

        1. It doesn’t really matter how he got here, it was nice of him to leave a comment.

      2. Hey David, welcome to WassupBlog. I believe this is the first time we have met? I’m interested in how you’ve come to find this post. Surely it’s not because your name was mentioned in a comment? I wouldn’t have thought the search engines would have picked that up yet.

        Anyway mate, I hope you found it of some interest.

        1. Yeah, I use BackType so I know when somebody mentions my name in a comment. :-)
          .-= David Risley´s last blog ..How To Set Up A Poll With WordPress [And Why] =-.

          1. Really, I didn’t know you could set BackType to do that. I will have to look into that. Thanks

            1. I just googled BackType and that is one very handy tool! I will definitely be making use of this.
              .-= Tom@Surveys For Money´s last blog ..More Online Surveys For Cash =-.

            2. Yeah, it’s pretty good. I’ve been using it for ages but wasn’t aware of that feature.

    2. And when we do become famous Hesham, let’s hope that we never forget our roots.

      1. Yeah, I agree with you!
        .-= Saksham @ Blogging Junction´s last blog ..Back Up Your Blog Regularly. =-.

  27. Those guys are just too big now and they don’t need to respond to comments for backlinks any more. David R. was ok for a while but I didn’t care for his shilling of Yaro. He is still pretty good about returning emails but I don’t get the impression he cares about me personally like I do with the group of bloggers I have decided to associate with.
    .-= Dick´s last blog ..Tips To Better Blogging =-.

    1. Well, thanks for reading the blog, Dick. As for shilling for Yaro, sorry you didn’t like it, but I will always continue to recommend what I believe in. To do anything else would be a disservice.
      .-= David Risley´s last blog ..What Tiger Woods Can Teach Bloggers =-.

      1. Even major bloggers would do well to acknowledge those who consistently go out of their way to link to them and share their content on Social Networking sites.

        We each only have so much time and can only do so much in a day. Ignore us and eventually we’ll stop recommending you and give that time to bloggers who appreciate what we’re doing.

        I haven’t read specifically what David wrote about Yaro; however, I did come across a blogger whose new sites leap up in traffic instantly – and she credits her success to what she learned from Yaro.
        .-= Gail @GrowMap´s last blog ..MEME: LinkLuv to My Fav Bloggers Favs =-.

    2. Personally Dick I feel no matter how big you get it’s not a smart business practice to forget those that helped to put you in that position.

  28. Yeah I agree. I think people have to stop linking to them because they already have a ton of traction in the blogosphere..

    1. Thanks for dropping by Melvin. This post is merely stating why I have taken the present stance. Other bloggers must do what they feel is right for them.

  29. I said the same thing over at DR’s site and my very own site just the other day.

    You have to interact with your readers. If you continue down this preaching road that these ‘probloggers’ have decided to go down your going to become unstuck.

    Please read and be involved with your readers, even if you set out an hour every two days to reply, visit readers websites etc etc

    This is a fantastic post, now retweeting with such passion I wish the pressure I was hitting my click button could be measured.

    Brilliant post and I am so gratefull you have had the balls to post it, good work.

    1. Thanks mate, and I hope that you will be back for future posts. I agree that it is important and I’m shocked that some do not see the importance of it.

      Oh, thanks for the Tweet too :drunk_tb:

  30. Hey Sire,
    I found your blog through David Risley ‘s post about this post. You’ve generated great discussion here. I’m adding you to my RSS. I’ll be back. Cheers.
    .-= Gordie´s last blog ..Why Deadlines Are For Deadbeats. =-.

    1. Hey Sire,
      Same here. I’ve subscribed to your RSS… you’ve got an interesting blog here. Keep it up.
      .-= David Risley´s last blog ..When Comments Begin To HURT Your Blogging Success [VIDEO] =-.

    2. Thanks Gordie and David, wow, killing two comments with one reply, :cheese1_ee: both for getting involved in the discussion and for subscribing.

      Man, if I knew I had to virtually have a go at someone to get a response I would have done it long ago. :smile2_ee:

        1. Man as if you haven’t beaten me to the punch on more than one occasion. :guns_tb: :innocent1_tb: :laugh_tb:

            1. You’re yanking my chain aren’t you Mitch? I was sure you’d passed that milestone long before now.

  31. Realistically if a blog post garners 200 comments, one can’t realistically respond to those and engage in discussion with everyone.

    The alternatives then become either: a) don’t have comments, or b) hire someone to respond to comments on the blogger’s behalf.

    Neither one of those options seems better than the status quo…
    .-= Aaron Hockley´s last blog ..Tease Me, Stuff Me, or Fill Me with Facts: Effective Blog Post Titles =-.

    1. True, but not every post would get that many comments and you don’t actually have to reply to every single one, unless it actually adds to the conversation, as in answering a query or correcting a false assumption.

      I remember when Garry Conn turned off his comments, and now they’re back, so I reckon that could lead one to assume that comments are pretty important.

  32. I follow most of the large bloggers, but lately they all seem to be inundating readers with ads and tweets for commercial WordPress themes, an ebook or a fly by night advertising service. I could take the one or two plugs a week before, but lately it’s getting pretty ridiculous and I’m starting to tune out. Thanks for the list of bloggers. Maybe they will satisfy the need for a not-so-spammy read.
    .-= Mitch´s last blog ..Motorola Droid: Error “Application is not installed on your phone” =-.

    1. Hey Mitch, your the second Mitch to ever comment on my blog. The other Mitch is now a regular.

      I got to admit some of those tweets get pretty annoying. I had to turn Chow off because he kept regurgitating what he had for his last meal.

      I hope you enjoy reading those blogs. They are only a few of the ones I read.


  33. Twitter:
    Nice post Sire and I agree with you. It’s very cool of Darren to stop by and comment. It’s nice to get the other side of the story every now and then.

    I’m in no position to tell Darren Rowse anything when it comes to blogging. I respect his success and admire his talent. I will say we all get the same 24 hours a day. The whole, ‘I don’t have time’ or ‘my time is too valuable’ is a little insulting to the rest of us. Especially to those that took the time to comment on his blog. It’s hard not to see it as if he assumes he’s busier that everyone else. I can certainly relate to not having enough time in a day so I don’t want to sound like I’m on the attack. I have a family too, run far too many sites and blogs and all the things that go with it. Here’s the thing that makes me a little insensitive to the ‘I don’t have time’ statement. I have a job. I drive a truck 12 hours a day. I don’t say that to brag, I would much rather say I no longer have to work because I make enough online but that hasn’t happened yet.

    I can almost hear the sincerity in Darren’s comments and I believe he knows what’s best for him. There would be nothing wrong with him just saying he’s worked like a dog to get where he is and it’s time to enjoy the fruits of his effort. He certainly deserves the time and freedom to enjoy the quality lifestyle he’s built. As far as it taking an hour or more to reply to a few comments, an hour seems like nothing when the rest of use are not only replying but visiting those commentor’s blogs and commenting there as well. Making those rounds can take several hours for me but there again, perhaps that’s why I don’t share the same level of success.

    As far as turning comments off, I think that turns a blog into a just another website. Just my opinion. Thank you for putting yourself out there Darren and commenting on Sire’s blog. You do have class.
    .-= Brian D. Hawkins´s last blog ..Extreme Advertising By Reebok – Better Legs And A Better Butt With Every Step =-.

    1. Hey Brian, hows it going mate? I’m still looking for somewhere to where that badge to. Better come up with something soon or Sheryl will expect me to have it with a shark. :jittery_tb:

      I reckon it was really cool that Darren and David, the double D’s :tongue_wink_ee: took the time to put forward their views.

      I only hope that by the time I make it to their status I’ve worked out a way to keep in contact with all my commentators.

  34. This is the most impressive post I’ve ever seen! You’ve given me more ideas that the blogosphere isn’t only owned by Darren nor Johnny. I’ll follow other probloggers. But I’ll still following Darren since he told me to see this discussion. Greetz, azis @ BloggerSpeed.com

    1. Man, guys like you impress the hell out of me. The fact that you command two languages when most people struggle with one is cool. I went to comment on your blog but wasn’t able to.

      Is that Indonesian? Because it was all I can remember from my college days is Selamat pagi Bloggerspeed, nama saya Sire……and I’m not even sure I got that right. :ponder_tb:

  35. Hi Sire,

    This is really one of the inspiring blog post compared to other type of postings. In fact I am just a blogging beginner (started my blog site 3 days ago and only have 1 post). I have been reading and learning from many other resources, realizing that how important is it to write good content, be valuable, solving real problems, etc. As in before, I do learn about the key of become a successful blogger is to engage your readers and build a long term relationship (sounds like some customer relation management thingy), but after reading your post, I am inspired that I should not only engage them, but really love them and communicate with the dearest audience.

    I love your idea of compiling / summarizing comments, I think it is a very practical technique and I will definitely use it in the future (if I happened to become a pro-blogger :p). We do realize sometimes comments are just passing remarks or do not required a replies, but by doing this will make the readers feel that the blogger are aware of their existence.

    On the other hand, I am not defending anyone but my past experience is Darren is quite approachable (On Twitter, not my blog YET) so maybe just a shift of focus and things like that? Good to see that this post is getting lots of constructive and interesting feedback, love it!

    I am going to forward this to many other people on my twitter. Look forward to your future postings.

    Regards,
    Hans.
    .-= Hans@IT Trainer´s last blog ..Google Chrome for Mac released =-.

    1. I can honestly say that I have never approached Darren because I know how busy he is. I have no doubt that he helps people out wherever he can, that’s what most Aussies do.

      Maybe I am looking at all this wrong, and maybe if I devoted more time to working how to make a buck and less time commenting I could start raking it in, :ponder_tb:

      Nope, I would miss all my commenting mates.

      Seeing as how you are knew at this I would suggest you treat everyone who comments like gold. Make sure you have a good comment policy so that you can solicit good comments, and don’t be scared to delete the spammy ones as they only devalue the post.

      If you check my archives you will see quite a few posts on how much I value the importance of comments.

      Good luck on your blog.

  36. I never have been upset over not getting any comments
    from the pros. They must have so much to read and write on a daily
    basis, it’s understandable. I love reading problogger, gave up chow a
    long time ago though, he was too boring. Twitter annoys me – if I
    tweet to someone and they don’t reply. It’s really not to much effort to
    reply to a tweet!

    1. Hey Tammy, I’m not upset at all, nor am I winging or griping as some have said on other sites. I merely made an observation and decided on a course of action due to that observation.

      Twitter used to annoy me, and then I found TweetDeck.

      Thanks for commenting, and I hope you enjoyed your stay here. Please come again and don’t forget to pay for the stuff in the bar fridge. :smile2_ee:

      1. Sire –
        Sorry, did not mean to imply you were upset. Was meaning me in general. :)
        I agree – I don’t see you as whining – just making a statement based on observations. I have used tweet deck in the past, it’s pretty good. I mostly tweet from my ITouch though.

        1. Nope, it’s me that should apologize. I didn’t frame that comment well at all. My bad. I knew you weren’t saying that I was a whiner, I read that on some other blogs and somehow got it all mixed in with that comment.

          Don’t you love the iTouch. I had to buy myself one. It’s a cool piece of technology. If you get the Skype ap, and the right headset, you can even use it as a phone.

          A bit off topic, but shit, it’s my blog and I can do that if I want. :king_tb:

          1. Totally love the I Touch! My daughter and my bf got it for me last Christmas. It’s amazing! That’s awesome about the Skype ap! Will look into it!.. thanks! :)

  37. I must agree with you on this one. Even though my own country-based-news blog is an established one, I usually prefer to comment on blogger’s blog who will atleast value my comment…and not take it just like “hah another comment”.

    As far a John Chow is concerned,..I liked that joke lol “those annoying ones from Chow every time he visits a restaurant”.

    Among the blogs above I do read Extreme John’s…and he is one of those nice guys that its always a pleasure to read and interact with…unlike some over-proud others.
    .-= Kurt Avish´s last blog ..Theodore Sypnier – 100 Year Old Child Abuser Released =-.

    1. Hiya Kurt, nice to have you on board. I’m glad you liked the post and hope you take the time to read some of the other blogs I’ve listed.

  38. My first order of priority is for my readers. I’m a consumer journalist and I write for baby boomer consumers at The Survive and Thrive Boomer Guide.

    I’ll link to any site or information that I think will help my readers. That’s what it’s all about — offering a service to people.

    Rita

    1. That is also so true Rita, and I thank you for making your point.

      Oh, I fixed your url as it wouldn’t work until I put the backslash in.

  39. Hello Sire! I’ve been out of town and in the midst of moving Hell, so I apologize for being late in commenting on this post. Here are my thoughts:

    1) I appreciate your honesty (as always) and that you are taking a stand. I strongly believe that we should spend the majority of our networking time supporting those who connect with us on some level and are willing to come to our blogs and participate as well. Of course there are some blogging celebrities who honestly would like to, but can’t. Not only is time a factor, but politics. If they were to return my comment, next thing you know they’re suffering through hundreds of “I’m hurt that you… but not me… don’t you like me too” emails and Tweets. So when a relationship is not reciprocal I really take a hard look at the actual or potential added value to my own blogging career that can be provided by that source alone, and if that doesn’t stack up, whether this person’s charisma tickles or touches me on a level that inspires me to support them in a one-sided relationship. To be honest, the latter doesn’t happen often. I find that most celebrity bloggers are celebrities because they have been around forever, and started at the right time, not because their material is superior.

    2) I will admit to having an intellectual crush on Darren Rowse. The glasses make him seem so fatherly and wise. He’s always to classy, calm and collected – not a slave to his emotions. Once, when I first started blogging and was even more of an idiot and ignoramus than I am now (If you can imagine that – I know, right?), I sent him a Tweet asking how he could leave @AlliWorthington off of his current list of influential bloggers, or something of that nature, and he actually responded to me saying something like, “You’re right, she certainly deserves to be on that list.” I couldn’t believe he actually responded to me! Never mind the fact that I was being an idiot and doing the very thing I came to know as ridiculous and unhelpful. He responded to little ole me, and he said something nice about Allison Worthington and that was good enough for me.

    3) I’m still grooving on your Christmas theme.

    4) I don’t recognize all of the names on your list, but I do follow Extreme John and DiTesco and Ching Ya, and have been blown away by them all. They say when you’re green you’re growing, and when you’re ripe you’re rotten. These bloggers are already “there” in my mind, but are still hungry enough to keep things interesting.

    5) Did I mention that I like your Christmas theme?
    .-= Heather Kephart´s last blog ..Interview: DiTesco of iBlogZone =-.

    1. Hang on a sec Heather, you have a crush on Darren? Have you even seen my video. I wear glasses too you know, maybe not as cool as Darren’s, but specs all the same. :nono_tb: :lol_tb:

      As to people being miffed if he only answered some, that’s what comment policies are for. Still, I understand his dilemma, damned either way. Still, at least he has a 6 figure income to put a smile on his face. :smile1_ee:

      Hows the move going? Reckon your missing Joe some huh?

  40. Sire,

    With the popularity of this particular post and the explosion of comments how much time have you had to dedicate to answering all of them? Is this something that you would be able to keep up with going forward?
    .-= Ms. Freeman´s last blog ..Don’t Get Stuck In the Quagmire of Thinking Small =-.

    1. I was waiting for someone to bring this up. :cheese1_ee:

      Yes, it’s taken me some hours, but then not only have I replied to most of the comments, as even though people keep saying I’ve said I reply to all comments, some comments don’t need a reply, such as those that have started a conversation with another reader.

      Anyway, apart from replying to the comments, I have visited every blogger’s blog and left one, and sometimes more, comments on their blog. This is more time consuming, as I’m not a speed reader like my mate Mitch. This involves skimming the title, finding a post I’m interested in, reading it properly, scanning some of the comments and then leaving a, hopefully, good comment. That was the most time consuming.

      Would I be able to do this on a daily basis? If this was my full time job, my business so to speak, then yes, I believe I could.

      Let’s put things into perspective from my side of things. I’ve been self employed for close to 30 years, and the business side of things is as efficient as possible because I want to finished with it quickly so I can get to the things I enjoy, like family and blogging, as soon as possible.

      I actually have eight or so blogs and I usually update all regularly. Of late this has not been possible as the business side of things have been in turmoil because of takeovers and coming to grips with all of the changes. Therefore I’ve been concentrating on this one for the moment. Even so, I still reply to comments on the other blogs.

      As blogging isn’t my business, as it’s more a form of escapism, I’d probably be the least efficient blogger out there. If it was my business, things would change. I wouldn’t have as many blogs, or if I was going to keep them I would source them out. Shit, if I was making a six figure income I’d have no qualms about hiring some help.

      I wouldn’t be doing a sleuth of guest posts, my blogs and commentators would come first. I would fit them in when possible. I would have someone scanning my emails, answering those that didn’t need my attention and letting me know of those that did.

      I’ve looked at some of Darren’s comments, and that bloke is way, way too kind. Some of them are at it only for the link, not even leaving a name but keywords instead. Most people who know me will tell you that these types of comments would be deleted on this blog. Others are what I call brown nosing comments, as all they’re doing is sucking up to the blogger. Definitely wouldn’t answer these, unless I had nothing better to do.

      Another thing about why it’s taken me this long is that my replies aren’t normally this lengthy. If this was my business blog, I would make this a post and link to all the commentators who gave me the inspiration for writing it. :drunk_tb:

  41. Thanks for your post. It’s a topic that I ponder regularly and one that I have mixed feelings about. I’ve enjoyed reading your thoughts and those in comments (enjoyed might not be quite the right word but it’s always good to hear opinions).

    When I started my blogs I used to read and respond to every comment. It was certainly a lot easier in those days – a comment was a rarity and I got so excited by it that I probably scared comment leavers away with paying too much attention to them.

    These days I have 3 blogs which on any given day generate around 300-500 comments on both new and old posts in the archives (some days I have had as many as 1000).

    The reality is that I’m faced with some tough choices. Just to read all these comments at say 10 seconds per comment takes over an hour a day. To respond to even a small % could take 2-3 more.

    For me it comes down to this question:

    ‘what is delivering the best value to my readers?’

    The reality is that when you have 100 or so comments on a post it becomes incredibly time consuming to respond to them all. I could certainly do it but does it deliver as much value to my readers as if I were put that hour or so into writing something else useful for my readers?

    The answer to that question for some blogs and bloggers might be yes – for them the community interaction is what it’s all about. But for me the answer is not always.

    In fact most times when I sit down in the morning and ask myself how can I deliver value to readers today the answer is ‘write a post’ or ‘record a video’ or ‘tweet some advice’.

    That doesn’t mean I ignore comments – I scan them all and often email responses to people and from time to time reply publicly – but I guess what it comes down to for me is that on any given day I have a certain number of hours to work and I think I can be more effective by using that time on activities like writing content than replying to comments.

    This same kind of principle applies to a whole lot of other stuff – replying to tweets, saying yes to interviews and guest posts, people asking me for individual advice. The reality is that I could quite easily spend a full day responding to people in many different ways and not do what I see as my core business – creating content – not to mention spending time with my children and wife :-)

    For me it’s not about not being friendly, about not caring or about not being a good person – it’s about having to prioritise, be sensible and think about how I can best help others while still also live a balanced and healthy lifestyle.

    Am I 100% happy about not responding to most of the comments left on my blogs? Not at all. In fact at times it eats me up – but the reality is that as rich and wonderful an experience as the comments section of a blog can be that I think I can be more useful in the posts on my blogs than the comments in most cases.

    I certainly wish I had a better solution but unless someone here has a constructive and workable alternative – I guess I need to make do with the approach I’m taking.

    Actually that’s something I’d actively invite. It’s all well and good to say you’re not going to read/link to someone who doesn’t read comments – but what would you do in my place? That’s a genuine question – looking forward to some constructive suggestions?

    Thanks again for your post and comments.
    .-= Darren Rowse´s last blog ..A Screamingly Effective Blog Disclosure Policy: How (and Why) To Get One =-.

    1. Hey Darren Rowse,

      Seeing on here seems to show that the issue is on your mind and that’s shows you’re still human. :)

      I find it interesting that people so easily float to extremes.

      Many bloggers will say you should reply to all or most comments while most pro-bloggers will say there is no time.

      I think that perhaps pro-bloggers such as yourself, and John Chow could try to commit to replying to 5-10% of your comments depending on how many comments you have on a particular day. It may require some rescheduling, but it doesn’t mean you have to use up more of your time.

      I remember reading what Leo said about the popularity of ZenHabits. It’s become impossible for him to interact with all his commenters now and he really misses it, but when you’ve got so much to do, it’s just impossible.

      I think now that you’re having more guest posts on ProBLogger, it’s good for you because the author of the posts can reply more to the comments on their guest posts.

      All the best, Darren.
      .-= Gordie´s last blog ..Why Deadlines Are For Deadbeats. =-.

      1. Gordie – I’m certainly human – and not a very good example of one most days as I keep forgetting to eat!

        Committing to comment on 5-10% is an interesting idea. It would probably still take me a good hour or two a day but perhaps even a lower % would help.

        I know when i do put time aside to comment that I tend to do it in batches to lots of people at once and I can churn through a few, although the whole time I do I feel guilt at not doing some other task that is on my list of things to do for that day :-)

        funny you bring Leo up on this – I was just interviewing him this morning on a podcast about this and he talked about the process of switching comments off completely on his blog for similar reasons to what I talked about above.

        The guest post thing is good in the way you describe – I tend to have 2-3 guest posts a week on ProBlogger (and do 4-5 days myself) and most of the guests do respond to comments pretty well (better than I’m able to) which is good.
        .-= Darren Rowse´s last blog ..A Screamingly Effective Blog Disclosure Policy: How (and Why) To Get One =-.

        1. Hey Darren,
          That’s a cool idea about in one reply responding to many comments. That would save a bit of time.

          Looking forward to the interview.

    2. Hey Darren, it’s so good to finally have you on my blog. Mate, the way you’ve structured your response does make it a little difficult in articulating a worthy reply.

      I must say though that I am not suggesting that a person should reply to every single comment, as some comments do not require a reply.

      Perhaps, seeing as how you do read all your comments that your could summarize a general reply linking to some of the more pertinent comments with a @ Bloggers Name.

      Me, I just work a business, spend time with the family and blog when I can. I don’t worry too much about tweets and I don’t have people hounding me for guest posts and such. I do know, as far as business goes, I could be making a lot more if I did all the work myself. Instead I prefer to have a some staff sharing the workload. That seems to make more sense than sharing the extra profits with the tax department.

      I’ve read that some people have said that I am winging and all, but that’s not the case. I wasn’t having a go at you mate, or those of your ilk, and I don’t believe that I ever said that people should follow my lead.

      Truth be told, you have your niche cut out for you, and seeing as I have my own time constraints I made the decision to focus on the emerging bloggers. After all, I can’t follow all the ProBloggers of this world, supply good content, reply to my commentators and support the emerging quality bloggers, now can I? :wink_ee:

      Thanks for saying your piece Darren. It does put the whole thing into perspective. I’m afraid, not being in your shoes, I can’t resolve your dilemma. If I wake up with a solution for you, I promise you, ProBlogger or not, I will pay you a visit and leave a comment with the solution.

      Once again, thanks for taking the time to give us your views on the subject.

      1. Sire – it’s interesting that you suggest summarising a general reply because what I most commonly do is write followup posts on my blog to previous posts – based a lot of the time on the type of feedback that I get on my blog.

        For instance tomorrow (about 11 hours from now) I have a post scheduled that is based upon a question from a reader in comments that I thought was the type of thing that other readers might be interested in.

        In a way I’m interacting in comments by writing new posts rather than just leaving another comment that only a few people will see. Again – for me it comes down to how I can be most useful to the most people possible.

        I get your point about hiring staff to share the workload – the only problem with this in my case is that when I bring on people to write for me people complain that I never write on my own blog any more (see comments above for a few people who said that) or that I’m not being personal in replying to comments myself….. it’s kind of a no-win circular problem – outsource and be critiqued further for not being personal or do it yourself and either burn out or… not be personal :-)

        I guess in the end all I can really do is be true to myself, do my best to be useful and pay my bills and be at peace with the fact that what I do won’t meet everyone’s expectations or tastes.

        I know you’re not having a go at me, I do appreciate the post. Thanks to for taking on my perspective and seeing some of where I’m coming from.
        .-= Darren Rowse´s last blog ..A Screamingly Effective Blog Disclosure Policy: How (and Why) To Get One =-.

        1. Darren, I’ve read one or two of those summary posts before, and that doesn’t quite solve the problem. However, if you were to link to a few of the better commentators in that post, and let it be known that future summary posts will reward those special comments, not only will the perception of you being an all around nice bloke, you will vastly improve the quality of comments left on your posts.

          Do that and I may even start commenting on your blog again. :drunk_tb:

          1. it’s a bit of a double edged sword on rewarding comments Sire. While it may increase quality of some it also tends to increase the quantity of spammy/self promotional comments too.

            I’ve done this type of things a few times and last time I did it I ended up with 500+ comments, most of which were pretty average.

            Ironically then I started getting complaints that ProBlogger gets too many comments and that everyone’s just there for self promotion and that people were not able to read through all the comments because there was so much low quality interaction.

            Actually thinking this through is making me chuckle – the complaints I’ve had over the years about this whole area are so varied and opposite extremes that if I were to try to please everyone I’d end up killing myself.
            .-= Darren Rowse´s last blog ..A Screamingly Effective Blog Disclosure Policy: How (and Why) To Get One =-.

            1. Heck Darren, deleting scammy comments comes with the blogging territory mate, you should know that. :laugh_tb:

              I am pretty strict with the types of comments I accept, and if they don’t make the grade or don’t adhere to the comment policy I simply delete them. I’m not fussed if they don’t come back because there was never an intent to add to the content, only to get a link back.

              True, you can’t make everybody happy and I sure don’t want you pulling the plug either.


        2. Twitter:
          Darren,

          I have to say that I’m impressed that you cared enough to stop by Sire’s blog to state your case. Actually I’m stunned, which might not be fair, but so be it.

          I don’t think anyone ever expected you to respond to every single post. You actually responded to one of mine once, and I appreciated it.

          And I guess that’s kind of the point. Matt Cutts responds to some blog posts, but not all, and he’s a fairly busy guy also. I wouldn’t expect you to respond to posts when someone else writes them, and I certainly don’t expect you to respond to all those “I like this post” garbage posts.

          I’m not sure if you know who Joe DiMaggio is. Very famous baseball player, one of the best in history. He was once asked why he played so hard in every game he played in. He said it was because someone there might never have ever seen him play before.

          I’m not sure how to answer your question on how much or how little you should comment, but recognize that you’re kind of a legend to the rest of us. Trust me, a bone here and there will do wonders for you.

          Kind of like posting your comment here has done; good stuff. :clap_tb:
          .-= Mitch´s last blog ..My Top 12 News Stories Of The Decade =-.

  42. Brian – appreciate your comments but to be fair, I never said my time is too valuable to respond to people – I simply said that from my prospective I can serve my visitors better by spending a couple of hours writing a tutorial or post that helps them with a problem that they’re having than by reading and responding to comments for two hours.

    Responding to 10-20 comments well might help a handful of people but writing a post could help a few thousand.

    The reality is that I do respond to some comments, sometimes publicly, sometimes privately via email and sometimes by writing a new blog post (that’ll benefit the whole community) – I could no doubt spend more time doing it but for every hour I do that I’m doing an hour less of something else (usually writing).

    Interestingly when I did a survey of my readers last week I had 2000 people give me feedback on how I’ve been travelling as a blog. There were certainly a few comments on things I could do better but the number one thing people asked for was more content. I’m still sifting through all the answers but am yet to find anyone ask for more comments from me in the comments section (there may be some in the last few hundred responses for me to read).

    I guess ultimately for it it comes down to trying to work out what my readership wants from my blog – at this point I think they want me to produce more blog posts so that’s what I’m focussing more upon.

    1. Darren,

      I think you have given the best response to this on-going topic. I understand the magnitude of work that has to go into building and maintaining such a popular blog. I enjoy very much visiting your site and reading nearly everything you write and I comment on all of it. I have come to except and understand that you are not going to reply to my comment.

      I just hope that if on an off chance that I leave something that is so insightful that you chose to use it as a muse for one of your follow-up posts that I would get a small credit some where on the post. That only seems fair to your readers and commenter.

      David Risley stated in his video that there is a blogging class structure. What are your thoughts on that? And where in that structure do you rank yourself?
      .-= Ms. Freeman´s last blog ..Don’t Get Stuck In the Quagmire of Thinking Small =-.

  43. I enjoy reading their blogs but I did send John Chow a short questionaire hoping to write a blog about him with no response. I found your blog linked by Darren Rowse on Twitter. Eau thee ironing.

    1. Hey Erika, welcome to WassupBlog where irony abounds. :laugh_tb:

  44. Lately when reading blogs and comments, if I come across a comment that resonates, I’ll go to that person’s blog and leave a comment there. I’ve found a lot of interesting blogs that way, and connected with some interesting people. In many cases we’ve ended up subscribing to each other’s blog.

    I don’t expect a problogger to respond to my comments, although it’s nice when they do. Some are more generous than others in terms of visiting my blog and thanking me for the link.

    And Sire, I’ll be checking out the blogs you initially recommended. Interesting discussion you’ve generated.
    .-= Cindy Stephenson´s last blog ..Why Tiger Woods should ‘fess up and get on with it =-.

    1. Hey Cindy, I have been known to come up with an interesting topic or too. Not too shabby for an old Aussie bloke.

      I’m heading on over to your blog now to have a go at Tiger.

  45. Hey all,
    Just getting in from work and thought I would see what transpired since I have been out of the house.

    Lot of good points here, I can say have never followed John Chow never struck me as worthy, I guess because I subscribed to something of his and opted out after like a week because of the annoyance.

    Darren Rowse on the other hand I do have respect for as far as how far he has gotten and how he got there. I remember the story and it was an inspiration for me to work harder and longer. I also understand the issue of time, there are only 86,400 seconds in a day and you must own your time, there is no getting time back.

    Actions on the other hand are a matter of priorities, what is the most important to me to use my time. I may be off base to some people on how I manage my time, but it is my time. Darren probably never realized how important an occasional guest appearance and comment would be to so many people. Although this maybe an abstract way to ask inadvertently it has turned out that way. Just a for instance I know when Gala Darling came to Cait’s blog and left a comment. Cait already looked up to her but just that little one line comment to her then put her on a higher plane of respect for sure.

    A look at marketers, I have subscribed and tried to contact a list of 40 top marketers. Not by sending a reply back to the autoresponder, by actually going to the support on a site or submitting to their support desks, whatever it took to get a good contact e-mail. Heck I am on their list why shouldn’t I be able to contact them. There were two that contacted me after I send over time 4 messages each of the 40. Both of these big marketers sent me another offer that was it they show they don’t care. Allot of people follow people for what they have not what they give.

    I’m not going to start naming names I have been compiling information for a give away book I may someday publish. If you think about the top names that are most common you already have the list. I still have the e-mail set up and still just get pounded with offers. Nothing of value just a big circle jerk of big marketers promoting each others stuff.

    No matter what you think Darren cares enough to show up here and share his views. Something you won’t find with most of the big marketers, I honestly don’t think he has forgotten his roots.

    Darren this is directed directly at you. Everyone says there is no golden key to success. I know there is. I have seen Ed Dale take people under his wing and just with a couple mentions they are in the big time.

    I just got back from spending some quality time with Bill Walsh at the Rio here in Las Vegas. Hanging with millionaires and billionaires gives you a different perspective on what success is. When you actually get the chance to ask people of this caliber questions you better ask and make it count.

    One of my questions was “how did you get where you are?” The answer was pretty consistently Helping Others, make an impact of value on people’s lives with something they will remember and talk about. The more people you help and the more you give the more you get in return and you can’t stop it.

    Is it possible Darren that you being a person of influence are being asked for help in a different way than you perceive? There is an obvious call to you for help people here. Would it be out of perspective to actually get a little more personal with people on their sites and help them on their turf?

    No big name is doing this and it may actually create a world wide rave. ProBlogger goes above and beyond, giving of himself unselfishly helping others by giving tips and critiquing blogs in their world.

    I’m telling you, I have heard the voices here and I know is always ask “how can I” and “help others.” There is a need here, would it be possible that by doing this personal thing for people stimulate people to set up a Google alerts for ProBlogger and follow where you go? Would this build more powerful blogs that are connected to you? Would your personal input on others blogs give you even more credibility and reach?

    Doing this will work.
    Look at the perception of others there is a need.
    I just wish I was in your position, I would be developing a brand for sure.
    Brad West ~ onomoney
    .-= Brad West´s last blog ..RSS Feed Submission Sites =-.

    1. I hear you Brad and on some levels agree – but I guess it still comes down to whether I have time to give that personal attention when all day every day I am asked for it. I do try to respond to people where I can but looking at the 457 emails in my inbox just from today… many of which have questions, requests for help etc… I guess I sometimes honestly feel overwhelmed by people’s desire for personal attention. I try and have managed to help quite a few but the reality is that being personal just doesn’t scale when you hit a certain point. My problem is that I’ve been lucky enough to have three blogs that have success – multiplying the unscalability of the demands. Still trying to make sense of it – appreciate your thoughts.
      .-= Darren Rowse´s last blog ..A Screamingly Effective Blog Disclosure Policy: How (and Why) To Get One =-.

      1. I totally appreciate where you are coming from the e-mail is one real time killer. I can say I only get about a third of what you get and understand time constraints, time is our most valuable asset.

        You are saying helping people on a personal level doesn’t scale. I say how can the personal level be made to scale? If you’re effectively helping others there are now others that can answer questions through your teachings and their experiences using what they have learned.

        You have a forum open up part of your board to the public you can post a few questions from your emails so others can answer. Explain to them that sharing their knowledge gives them credibility and exposure. This would not only help people with exposure and credibility but free up some of your time. Done in a public venue as such it would also allow a few different views possibly that one person may not be able to express. There is a little bit from me on the e-mail dilemma.

        As far as personally going to and posting comments on other peoples sites. Do you remember when you were first starting out writing like crazy trying to get noticed? Do you remember the feeling you got what someone actually read your stuff and then made a comment? What a great feeling! Take that feeling and multiply it many times, if you were to start interacting with others on their turf, in their house, don’t you think that people would talk? I for one would be showing off the fact that ProBlogger came and took the time for me.

        If you can’t see what I’m saying or see the huge value, put yourself in the shoes of us that are struggling. How would you react if you had some huge untouchable personally interact with you?

        To create a rave something we need to do something out of the ordinary. With a rave it is allot easier to create a brand. Take for instance Jason Moffett, Jason bought a motor home and is traveling around the US personally meeting people that are connected to him. The impact of someone big actually showing up on your doorstep would be huge.

        I may be way off base here but I don’t think so
        Brad West
        .-= Brad West´s last blog ..Recovering American Soldier Christmas Cards =-.

        1. Hey Brad, man If I make it big, I’m dropping in on you guys. Make sure that Cait and Sheryl are on their best behavior though! :laugh_tb:

          You’ve made some excellent points, I hope I remember them if I ever reach Problogger status.

          1. Hey Sire,

            I must correct you when you make a statement like that. The correct way to convey your message is “when I make it big” Make your statement and own it and believe it.

            You see everything begins in thought, you are what you think. The elements of Total Power and the Path to enlightenment is knowing the truth being in the light.

            No truer words were ever spoken “As a man thinketh so he is” ~ Napoleon Hill

            You are always welcome to join us in Las Vagas
            Brad West ~ onomoney
            .-= Brad West´s last blog ..Twitter Mico Blogging =-.

            1. Ooh Ya I forgot to mention that, Your on your own there buddy. Sorry!
              .-= Brad West´s last blog ..Stuffed Dogs come to Dogs with Accessories =-.

            2. Point taken Brad, but you forgot to mention that they have to be on their best behavior, or is that an impossibility? :laugh_tb:

    2. I couldn’t have said it better myself. Can you image the boost some little blog will get if a Darren Rowse Would stop by, make a comment, give a tip, send some of his readers there.

      Wow that would be something. I tell you what, he would win a loyal reader for life.
      .-= Robert Bravery´s last blog ..What is the one thing that can improve your blog? =-.

      1. Yes Robert I can imagine Darren Rowse and a few other huge names interacting with me. I know what happens when someone with a golden key uses it.

        But on the other hand if you are put in the lime light you better be prepared to be creating and giving value yourself. It’s not all magic, it would actually create more work, I would welcome that challenge.

        This whole concept is something I have thought about for a long time. Whenever I have tried to share my thoughts on this subject people are too busy making money and promoting each others stuff. Darren is cool, I don’t believe he is caught up in that frenzy.

        The first time I really ever heard of a big name getting out and rubbing elbows with the commoners on purpose is Jason Moffett. I believe you will see more and more of it as time goes on, this is not the old days communication is getting better all the time.
        Brad West ~ onomoney
        .-= Brad West´s last blog ..Colorzilla Mozilla Firefox Add-On =-.

  46. Hey, Brad, I left the space open for Darren’s reply, as only he can answer your query. I’ve heard on more than one occasion how it is better to give than to receive, and how you will always get more in return.

    I think what puts a lot of people off is that they expect instant gratification, when they should perhaps be thinking of another saying, ‘all good things come to those who wait’.

    Just my 2 cents mate. As to Cait, she is one talented youngster.

    1. I learned allot this past week Sire,

      Things like early to rise and late to bed.
      Focus and complete your task.
      But the one common thread is that one way or another everyone of the people I met are successful helping others. I’m not saying in anyway that Darren dosn’t help people, he does.

      Listening to what people want and figuring out “how” is powerful.That was my point.

      This post is a fantastic opportunity to open eyes.
      .-= Brad West´s last blog ..Stuffed Dogs come to Dogs with Accessories =-.

      1. few more thoughts – I guess I’ve tried to listen to people and figure out how – but things change as a blog grows and changes. What I used to do in replying to lots of comments and visiting lots of blogs…. doesn’t work any more.

        So some of the things I’ve tried to do to make myself more available have included having open streaming video times when people can come ask questions and I answer them for an hour or two, spending time on Twitter, opening a forum etc.

        I guess all of these types of things have been an attempt to interact with people in a more personal way. None are perfect but they’re all attempts to try put myself out there in a way that is interactive but also manageable.
        .-= Darren Rowse´s last blog ..A Screamingly Effective Blog Disclosure Policy: How (and Why) To Get One =-.

        1. Darren, wouldn’t the forum itself take up a lot of time?

          Also you said that you had three blogs, and I agree that lumped together it would amount to a whole heap of comments. What if you selected one blog out of the three that you would answer a minimum amount of comments. Perhaps the pick of the bunch?

          One other thing, I’ve noticed that quite a few of your comments are purely there to get the link juice, comments that I would have deleted myself. I know it’s a chore, but surely if they noticed their comments were getting deleted they would try a lot harder to make them worthier?

    1. Well, that’s not right. Maybe you should have a go at some big boys and see what that will get you? :wink_ee:

        1. Yeah, imagine how much time I would have to comment if we weren’t trying to kill each other in chess :devil_tb:

  47. well said but all i have to say is this if you forget where you are coming from then you don’t know where you going i do understand what you are saying seen it every where in the blogging sphere
    .-= lawmacs´s last blog ..Cascading Style Sheet =-.

    1. That is very deep, so deep I think I’m not getting the point, as in how it relates to this post. Maybe it’s just because it is very late.

      1. sorry if i did not explain myself clearly what i was trying to say is that most succesful bloggers doesn’t remember that they started from zero before becoming successful and without there audience they(we) are nothing so they doesn’t care about our comment ask these guys how many of our comment they read by the way i must say thanks for showing me some love and last but not least i found this post on faceboook posted by heshaman of famous bloggers club and the question is priority and this we all know so well about keep up the good work
        .-= lawmacs´s last blog ..Cascading Style Sheet =-.

  48. I dont really follow either of them,but Yes they are in facebook friends list, and I happen to visit this post via a link shared by Darren Rowse :) Irony …

    PS: I only read Darren Occasionally now, Chow is out of the question, never liked him.
    .-= Zawad Iftikhar´s last blog ..How to Setup/Configure Hamachi For LAN Games =-.

    1. I’ve still got Darren on Twitter, as I do David, a late inclusion, and although I’m on Facebook I don’t use it much. Thanks for dropping in.

  49. Man I feel ya. No matter how many posts you leave on their blogs, it seems that they do not care. Well perhaps if you buy their e-books, or subscribe to some course or something like that then they will hear. You know Money talks.

    I have emailed numerous times some of these bloggers, asking questions, offering to guest posts, etc. But no reply.

    But then is it expected. Fame and fortune has always had this effect. The more famous and wealthy you become, the less you interact with the little people who helped get you there.
    .-= Robert Bravery´s last blog ..What is the one thing that can improve your blog? =-.

    1. At least they took the time to post their point of view , that says a lot. And the fact that they both tweeted this post shows that they’re not trying to dodge the issue.

      I don’t subscribe to the big boys anymore. I did it once and then I got a continuous supply of emails trying to sell me stuff.

      Thanks for commenting Robert.

      1. OOh I hate that. That’s why I don’t subscribe to John Chow and Yaro Starak any more. Because my mail box was filed with, but this e-book, pay for this course, pay money to join this forum.

        Now I know that this is a reliable way to make money. But If I want to buy your e-book, I will do so when I see if advertised on your site. I do not want to be spammed every day to buy something from you.

        When I subscribe to your feed, I want value in my box, not a sales pitch. Once or twice a year I can handle.
        .-= Robert Bravery´s last blog ..What is the one thing that can improve your blog? =-.

        1. Yeah, I know it’s probably how they make a lot of their money, but it’s too much like a salesman shoving his foot in the door trying to make a sale. I don’t like it having done to me and I don’t do it to others.

          It’s why I don’t send out mail trying to sell people stuff.

          If that’s part of having a problogger income, well I reckon I will never get there.

  50. Hi Sire,

    This is just CRAZY Sire! With all respect to all bloggers, specially big players like Darren and Chow, also for brad and for those who really got into this one.

    Let me stay neutral on this one because sometimes I do the same sometimes not. I only link for those intriguing topics and so, but for the majority of it…HEY there articles are enough, so why go to there likes?

    Sorry if I offend somebody here :)

    Jp Manching, blogmatters.net
    .-= Jp Manching – Beginners Blogging Guide´s last blog ..Suggested WordPress Plugins for Blog Beginners =-.

    1. Jp, I’m not saying that people should take my stance, and I certainly didn’t think this post would create such controversy. I was just stating the position I was taking and why I was taking it. Everyone else can do as they please, as it’s a free world, at least in most places.

      1. I agree Sire, it’s a FREE WORLD after all.

        And if you like a person, it doesn’t mean you like what he or she likes too.
        .-= Jp Manching – Beginners Blogging Guide´s last blog ..Suggested WordPress Plugins for Blog Beginners =-.

  51. I went over to David Risley’s blog and watched his video. I was going to leave a comment, but I can’t remember my discus login info (because I freakin hate DISCUS!). I do interact with David on twitter and facebook though.

    I actually respect Darren Rouse and have read a couple of his books. I guess that respect comes from the fact that he is an innovator in blogging, plus I asked a question in the Problogger room over at FriendFeed and he wrote an article on Problogger to answer my question and mentioned me in it.

    I do occasionally visit his blog and comment, but as you pointed out, it is not very interactive and I prefer to use blog comments as conversation.

    I also understand the fact that he gets so many comments that it must be hard to reply, but I do think that skimming through the comments to find ones that deserve replies would make the commentators try to make more relevant comments.

    Not sure I will ever stop reading Darren’s blog but I don’t leave many comments there anymore because it isn’t very interactive (might do me more good just jotting my comment on a piece of paper and tossing it in the trash!), I have never even heard of John Chow (well maybe, but I don’t read his blog) and until David changes his discus policy I won’t read his either.
    .-= Keith´s last blog ..Vinyl Vs Wood Fencing =-.

    1. Man, I thought I was the only one that hated Disqus. There must be something to it as more and more people seem to be heading that way. Me, I’m happy the way things are.

      I’ve been monitoring what some people are saying about the subject on some other blogs and I am quite surprised that some people are saying that I’m complaining that the likes of Daren Rowse aren’t replying to my comments. That’s not the case at all. I just stated that, seeing as how he wasn’t answering my comments, my time would be better served elsewhere, and I stand by that.

  52. I can see both sides of this issue, but still think some of the “heavy” bloggers have indeed gotten too big for their britches.
    now, what strikes me funny is that some of these bloggers have 100K subscribers yet only get 50 or so comments. Chow even less.
    What’s that tell you?
    AL
    .-= Allyn´s last blog ..Boddington’s Pub Ale Review, English Ale =-.

    1. I don’t know Allyn, what does that tell you? :wink_ee:

  53. Very true… Those guys are generally waaaay to busy and flooded with fans with interesting articles forwarding theirs to notice yours (ours). I think it isn’t indeed a bad idea to stay amongst our peer-bloggers, and help eachother out. I must say that I really like the list of blogs you presented here. Allready knew some of them, gonna check out the others.
    .-= Bjorn | iCan’t Internet@blogging´s last blog ..Blogging: 8 Elements for Grabbing and Keeping Attention =-.

    1. Thank you Bjorn for understanding. I wasn’t picking on those guys for the way they run things, that would be totally arrogant of me. I was just stating why I would no longer be spending time there or linking to them, an opinion that I believe I have the right to share with my readers.

  54. You have the point here but i still do commenting in chow blog because i found it give me some benefit.
    .-= Dana @ Online Knowledge´s last blog ..Create Contact Form for WordPress Blog =-.

    1. I never said you couldn’t Dana, just why I wasn’t going to.

  55. I really with your words.. There are loads of blogger who blog better (can say best) than darren and chow.. recently I have unsubscribed to amit agarwal’s blog where didnt even considering to leave a no follow link to his commentators.. I think this is becoming ridiculous..
    .-= Rajesh Kanuri @ TechCats´s last blog ..How To Add Snow Effect For Christmas In Blogger (BlogSpot) Blogs =-.

    1. Rajesh, I agree, it would be foolish to assume that you will only get useful information from problogger types.

  56. hi Sire, valid points of your, but looking from the probloggers point of view, i think they have a fair point that they are really busy. I mean, we all got 24 hours a day, and that’s not enough to reply to 400 comments and 500 emails, and that too day after day…

    however, @Darren Rowse, have you ever considered to outsource or keep an employee to do the replying and commenting, i know it won’t be absolutely personal, but an “employee @ problogger”‘s reply would be atleast good on comparision to no reply at all :)
    just a thought,
    .-= Uttoran Sen´s last blog ..3 Tips to Remove Duplicate Content Issues from WordPress Blog =-.

    1. I understand their position as well, but they have more time in a sense than I do as blogging is their only job, whereas blogging for me only happens after I finish my full time job.

      1. I do not think blogging is their only full time job, i have read shoemoney say that his blog makes peanuts and the big money really comes from the business they have, yes they have niche blogs, big blogs on other topics or other online business… am sure their blog is not their only online venture :)

        though, i agree that once in a while dropping by and saying thanks, should not be a big issue whatsoever…
        .-= Uttoran Sen´s last blog ..3 Tips to Remove Duplicate Content Issues from WordPress Blog =-.

        1. Perhaps for some, but I’m pretty sure Darren is a full time blogger.

  57. Hi Sire,

    I wouldn’t necessarily go out of my way NOT to link to one of “the big blogs”, but your comment about it seeming like a party where no one is listening really resonates with me. I do feel like even though bloggers are still all real people, we’re struck with some sort of star envy and just seek approval.

    I really like chatting with people who are more like me: they have other jobs, limitations on their time, and need to balance blogging with the rest of their life. I know some people who seem very careful about ‘measuring the influence of those they associate with’ – thinking that it’s not worth their time commenting on blogs that aren’t well-visited. I guess I don’t see it that way..
    .-= Andrea Hill´s last blog ..Career Advancement Core Conversation at SxSW =-.

    1. Hey Andrea, long time no see. I notice you have a new avatar, very nice.

      Personally I like commenting on those blogs that are not well visited. I think it gives them a little motivational boost, and even if they’re not well visited, when people do happen by, my comment will be noticed. Whereas if I leave it on one of the A list blogs it will get lost among the rest.

      1. Hello!
        Yes, it’s been awhile. I’ve been neglecting the blogosphere, sadly. When I came back, I thought I’d check it to see how you were doing, because as you say, you were a personality I got to know (somewhat), not just an avatar in the crowd :)
        .-= Andrea Hill´s last blog ..Go Ahead and Echo =-.

        1. Well, how nice of you to say so Andrea, I am touched. :wub_tb:

  58. Hi Sire,

    How have you been, I too have not been around the blogosphere so much lately, busy building niche sites.

    Great post and I completely agree with you and Amen to that! The truth is that while these “BIG” time bloggers get a lot of traffic, overall most of their posts are useless.

    I for one would love to read a post on Shoemoney or Problogger that for once delivers what they promise in the tagline of their blog, “How to Make Money Online.”

    I agree with you completely as far as the link luv goes as I went through the same thing with them and will not link out to these blogs any more.

    Often times I find that the smaller bloggers offer a lot more insight, and useful info than the A-listers ever do and they know how to reciprocate.
    .-= JR @ Internet Marketing´s last blog ..Search Hot Keywords with Comprehensive Info with Free Toolbar =-.

    1. JR, I hear where you are coming from, but it is a little unreasonable to expect them to post 100% content related to making money online. There just isn’t enough ways of doing it to make daily posts on the subject.

      I’m not complaining about the quality of their posts, only the lack of interaction with their readers.

      1. I hear you, but the ones that I was referring to don’t even post 30%. I was just voicing one of my frustrations related to the A-listers and the reasons that I have unsubscribed from several of them (John Chow, actually is not included in this)

        By the way, your blog is doing great, congrats on all your stats, very impressive!
        .-= JR @ Internet Marketing´s last blog ..Search Hot Keywords with Comprehensive Info with Free Toolbar =-.

        1. Thanks for clarifying that JR.

          Yeah, that stats aren’t all that bad, but they can still do with a lot of improvement.

  59. This just goes to show from all of these comments that most of these a-listers forgot where they came from. Most started 5-6 years ago and if you go back and look they commented all of the time to just about every comment left on their then pathetic blogs.

    Now I doubt Risley is making near the bank as the other “a-listers” so I don’t know why he feels like he needs to back off from the added discussion. I have a feeling him doing so will result badly from him.

    As for the topic at hand about not linking to these bloggers because of their lack of interaction, I would not link to them because nothing they blog about really helps anyone and is pretty much all fluff. I don’t think they are bad people but I unfollowed them ages ago because I was tired of hearing the same old re-digested crap about making lists and that BS.

    It took me a while and I might be slower than some, but after months of not reading any of their posts it occurred to me perhaps I should unsubscribe them and quite clogging my rss reader.

    Great discussion Sire, first time visitor/commenter. But I felt the topic was well worth it. They have it wrong.
    .-= The Real Josh´s last blog ..Step by Step Guide on How to Make Money With Twitter =-.

    1. I reckon they have it all wrong as well Josh, and I honestly believe that most of them have convinced themselves that it’s all a wast of time.

      I’ve seen some say on this post that they agree with me and then on their post that they agree with them, as if they don’t want to offend the almighty A listers in case of retribution.

      Me, I will continue to do what I feel is best.

      Thanks for your comment.

      1. I think it boils down to caring about those taking the time to follow you. The fact that anyone would want to take the time to follow anyone else is worth acknowledging. Thanks for the reply.
        .-= The Real Josh´s last blog ..Step by Step Guide on How to Make Money With Twitter =-.

        1. Yep, it actually is all about caring and sharing. Too bad there isn’t more of that going on in the world today. Thanks for dropping by.

  60. In all sincerity, I post on blogs if I have something to say. Most of the time I don’t subscribe to comments, so I’ll never know if they respond. And I don’t keep a tally of who comes to post on my blog.

    And if I find someone’s insights to be valuable, I subscribe AND I link to anything that relates to my own blog, and that I think my readers will like — without thought for return link love.

    There’s too much going on for me to even worry about that, really. For example, if you look in my CommentLuv link, it’s about some fleece socks my husband gave me for Christmas. (That’s the last post I created and so the default.) But for most of you, that post won’t be relevant to YOUR readers. Why should I expect a link back to my HOME BUILDING blog, if you blog about kittens? Or why should you link to my blog creations service blog if your blog is about sewing?

    I’ve been blogging for seven years (as of January 1) and have found that if I write good stuff, people who can USE it will link to me, while I link to those who can serve my readers. There isn’t a tit for tat, forward/back relationship. Rather a circular one that goes around a few degrees.
    .-= Alison Moore Smith@Custom Dream Home´s last blog ..Acorn Versa Socks are Yummy Warm =-.

    1. Hi Alison, the thing that bothers me the most it the lack of interaction on their blogs. I can comment on almost any other blog and expect to get some form of reply, but not when I comment on one of the problogger blogs. That is why I’ve decided to no longer have anything to do with them.

      In regards to commentluv, did you know that if you were a member you could choose from the last 10 posts on your blog?

  61. It’s great that you can express yourself and lay it all out. I visit both blogs and I have learned quite a bit from Darren and John but I don’t really interact with the big dawgs because I am a small fish. I love your blog though, very interesting and different from some I have read.
    .-= Meka@earning online´s last blog ..The Newbie WorkBook – One of The Best Guides on Earning Money Online =-.

    1. Thanks Meka. I’ve found that if you want to be noticed you have to a little different from everyone else otherwise you just get lost in the crowd.

  62. i agree with you, sire..maybe they are too busy so don’t have any time to listen our comment :p , but i think their post are still good today..
    thanks for your sharing my friend :)

    1. Never said anything to the contrary, and even though their can write some good posts, so can a lot of lesser known bloggers and I prefer to associate with them. At least with them I know my contribution will be recognized.

  63. Good to hear someone actually say it.
    I must admit that I never expect the big boys to comment on my blog but why should I think that?
    My time is as precious as theirs, I’ve taken the time to read their article and make a constructive comment.
    Why can’t they return the favour once in a while?

    In defence of the big boys, Michael Martin from Pro Blog Design, did pay me a visit and leave a comment.
    So there are some good guys out there.
    .-= Keith Davis@public speaking´s last blog ..Practice, practice, practice… =-.

    1. Yes there are Keith, and I’m not saying they are bad at all, just that I think my time is better spent with those who appreciate me.

  64. Stumbled on to this post via intra-link on your current one. I recently published http://www.blogincomelife.com/an-open-letter-to-nathan-hangen/ which while not exactly on point, does touch on a somewhat similar topic.

    I do visit the A listers, but not as often as I did when I first started on blog roundups (walkabouts for you, rendezvous for me). Like yourself I have found other up and coming bloggers and if I like their posts, I comment – some return the courtesy.

    The operative word though is “some”. So it’s not just the A listers who don’t return the visit. Actually I don’t expect the “A’s” to, logistics being what they are it is difficult enough just being a “Y” lister to keep up with everything including fresh content etc. and now I have added social media to the mix!

    I think that part of it is because the newbies haven’t learned much about online etiquette yet – some don’t even acknowledge your comment let alone return the visit. I think that’s fine. They will eventually learn. But the up and comers know better and they don’t have the same time excuse that the big guys do.
    .-= Valentina´s last blog ..Sunday Morn Musings: Reading and Independent Thinking. =-.

    1. I’m not sure the big guys are legitimate in their excuse. Blogging is their career and as such they don’t have a job to take up their time. I do and I manage to respond to my readers. Personally I think it’s just an excuse and if they’re happy to use it who am I to argue with them.

      Someone in the comments asked me how I managed with all the extra comments from this post, and I told them that not only did I respond to all of them I also visited their blog and left a comment there.
      .-= Sire´s last blog ..In Defence Of A Bloggers Right To Review A Product =-.

  65. Sire,

    Those are big names in the blogging scene. Maybe for them comments in their comments dashboard are counted in hundred everyday that’s why they’re too busy with that and had no time for courtesy visit. Off course now and then they reply to those they knew for long time.

    It doesn’t matter if we don’t get associate with them, after all now I see that you had successfully build up your own community – doing it your own way. :)

    1. Actually getting hundreds of comments a day is not normal even for the best of them. Also I am not advocating that they answer every one of them, just that they could make more of an effort if the so wished. Apparently they don’t.

      1. That is up to them, maybe they have other things going for them, but I certainly see your point of view.

  66. Wow, a lot of conversation stimulated on this one Sire. Posting controversy is a method of garnering a little attention, and this post certainly did the job!
    .-= Colleen@Kennewick Real Estate´s last blog ..Tri Cities Has Lowest Cost of Living in the State =-.

    1. Creating controversy was never my intention Colleen. I merely made a conscious decision and decided to do a post on it. I’m pretty amazed as to how it all took off.

  67. Man, I am so close to writing a blog post that is along these lines.

    I actually went way out of my own way to create something special and work hard for a month and I got no recognition either. The frustration is beyond me.
    .-= Scott Webb´s last blog ..Question The Rules Review =-.

    1. Man, I wasn’t even asking for recognition, other than a simple reply every now and again, but like people keep telling me, they just don’t have the time. More like they don;t want to make the time if you ask me.

      1. True enough, I wasn’t looking for recognition or even out for comments from the ‘a lister.’ The thing is I took massive initiative to blog about my own progress with their product and they knew about it but didn’t comment or mention it ever.

        When the person when to do a huge relaunch, all these random recommendation posts came out from other big bloggers and he tweeted and linked to them. During the relaunch, he did commented on the blog near the end of the launch but I didn’t even care. Even after the launch was done and the sales page closed, he wrote a blog post about everything and mentioned a few people and yet still not a mention of a site dedicated to his product as a diary thats over a month old.

        When do you just stop linking to these people and helping them out after over a year of supporting them with comments, blog posts, links, and continuous purchases.

        Do you feel this blog post helped you more than ‘hurt?’
        .-= Scott Webb´s last blog ..Question The Rules Review =-.

        1. The problem with these guys is it’s all about business and as far as they were concerned, you being a relative new comer, there was nothing in it for them to link to you where they saw an advantage linking to the big boys.

          Slack I know considering it’s people like you who put them where they are.

          I don’t feel this post hurt me at all. I didn’t say anything bad about them so it wasn’t a negative post, although some people took it that way. I merely took a stance and decided to do a post about why I felt the way I did.

          It did help in that it got me a lot of exposure and as it turns out more people supported my view that I would have thought.

  68. Honestly I hate John Chows blog. Seems like every post he is selling something. I am not going to lie but I feel like he is starting to get desperate and he is slowly going down the tube.

    People I enjoy reading:
    Shoemoney – He has interesting stuff to say and I enjoy reading him bash the industry. Compared to John Chow endorsing everything.. Have not been there in a bit because I stopped going 6 months ago. I feel shoe can exaggerate a bit on things but still a top one for me.

    QuickSprout – Great guy. Gets personal. Even emails you back. Super nice trust the guy a lot.

    They both came out with systems lately on how to make money. I will not join because everything is free on the internet and I guess I am doing fine with a lot of potential that I see.

    I will check out those blogs you say. I never thought I would get into reading blogs but some people are just entertaining.

    Thanks again.
    Brian P recently posted…Check Out These Free Giveaways!My Profile

    1. I check out Shoemoney on occasion because like you say he does have interesting stuff to say. I’ve never heard of QuickSprout so I may have to Google that one.

      Blogs can certainly be entertaining, not to mention you can learn a lot from them as well.

  69. Fantastic post! I agree 100% about those “corporate sponsored” bloggers, like John chow and ShoeMoney. They are too caught up getting paid thousands for ads and links, they dont want to link to us for free.

    Shoemoney is even worse in my opinion. They have this garbage “weekly shirt” post and all those other “newbie marketing ebook buy now” posts. But that is how they make money, whether we like it or not.

    1. Yep, that’s how they make there money and there’s nothing wrong with that Robbie. I’m just not going to add to their bank account.

  70. Thanks for this list. I’m going over to visit some of these blogs. I’m not a pro like you guys but I figure if I read what’s available it will be a great education. I especially like your blog and I learn something every time I’m here.

    1. No worries Gwen, I hope you enjoy their posts.

  71. I’m glad I’m not the only one who is sick and tired of John Chow’s restaurant posts… some of these guys just sound arrogant at times, they have great advice but still arrogant. I respect ShoeMoney the most, if we’re talking about uber internet marketing bloggers.

  72. i dont get whats the hype about John Chow .. i mean he made a lot of money because he was one of the first in the business . but i believe if you got there first .. you could have been much more successful then him .. oh and do you think its possible to make money with a niche like mine? err product reviews? like physical products …

    1. Sure, you just have to apply yourself to what you’re promoting. As long as the reviews are honest over time people will learn to trust you and then once you manage to build traffic to your site things should start happening.

      As to Chow I think even if he started his blog later rather than earlier he still would have made it, he just would have found things a little tougher.

  73. You will get noticed quickly if you write a guest post for them rather than linking to their post! LOL :thumbup_tb:

    1. That’s true but I wouldn’t do that either.

  74. I totally agree! I am recent loyal reader of ExtremeJohn & Kikolani. I find them very informative too & equally useful for beginners like me. I agree with some of the comments that those who have been in the business has an advantage, but these small bloggers today might emerge more successful in the near future.


  75. Twitter:
    Thank you and thank you. Finally someone who speaks my language. It really pisses me off when so called “pro bloggers” are too good to respond to their readers or share link love to those smaller bloggers who one backlinks would help them much more that it would them (the “probloggers”).
    And the sad thing is that these so called “pros” wouldn’t be here today if it wasn’t for other smaller and unknown bloggers who kept going to their blogs and leaving comments and linking to them and spreading the words. I can go on and on about this…
    satrap recently posted…53 Ways to Make Money OnlineMy Profile

    1. Hi satrap, we’re not the only ones that feel this way, I’m sure there are many more but they just won’t admit it in case they attract the wrath of the probloggers.
      Sire recently posted…Why I Chose MailChimp Over AweberMy Profile

  76. I am back again Sire. I now think that Problogger is more successful and informative. John Chow is just another person who does know how to blog. Who wants to hear about him in a blog about blogging and SEO? He should have made it a personal blog! LOL. There are many blogs out there which have quality content like Shout Me Loud etc.

    1. They’re both good bloggers and people can follow them it they wish. I choose not to.

  77. Do you really use the flexsqueeze theme, Sire? It really looks good.

      1. Flexsqueeze theme looks great at their blog but not on yours. :(

        1. Whose blog? With FlexSqueeze you make it look anyway you like. I like this look otherwise I would change it.

  78. Fair points. In one way it makes sense to link to the big bloggers because they’re the best at what they do and write naturally linkable content. In another way though it means no one else gets a chance to progress. So I respect your decision.

    Pete
    Pete recently posted…BoE Minutes- Good News For People Planning To Transfer MoneyMy Profile

    1. I honestly believe they’re not as good as they used to be. Many of them are using guests posts so much that it’s hard to determine whose blog it really is. I reckon this is because they’re struggling to find new topics and so they rely on others to supply the content.

  79. I am right there with you on this one. The only one I still go to is Niel Patel and he does take the time to respond to most if not all comments made on his blog. He is extremely busy but still finds the time. I have also asked him if I could re-post one of his articles and he had no problem and got back to me much quicker than i expected. Its much better when they don’t make you feel like the idiot int he room talking to yourself.

    1. Haven’t heard of Niel before but if he takes the time to reply to comments, well, I’m liking him already.


      1. Twitter:
        Funny, I was just checking to see if there was still activity on this particular post and I find this one from earlier today; it’s karma! This Neil Patel guy seems to be the real deal; I’ve subscribed to his blog for the last month. Of course once again he’s more than just a blogger, but his life is definitely an online life and in general I think you’d like him Sire.
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        1. I left a comment on his blog. Looks like he is a real busy bloke, too busy to delete comments like “great post!” I can’t believe he actually replied to that. I would have deleted it.
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            Well, he does miss some of those, but he’ll eventually comment on good posts as well.

            By the way, I’m still only getting 5 choices of blog posts. :-(
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  80. Good article. So your a kind of Robin Hood of blogging then? I’m all for helping the small blogging gems get more of the recognition they deserve.

  81. I hear you on getting some recognition back. I think we all strive for that! If I write something good the hope is that others will agree and provide a link to it.
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